ppy/Heidelberg-workshop-1998-06-10to16_notes_20151224f.txt Last Updated: ppy/2015-10-12T19:30PDT; ppy/2015-11-14T10:15PST; ppy/2015-12-24T16:30PST, = Historic archives of the 1998 Heidelburg Workshop = * the Heidelburg Meeting (Villa Bosche, Heidelburg, Germany) was a week's workshop held June 10~16, 1998. * it's the Heidelberg Workshop of June-1998, sponsored by the Klaus Tschira Foundation * the communications below identify some of the players involved * PatHayes collection of communications (from the preparation of the 1998-06-10 Heidelburg meeting to the 1999-11-18 meeting at Stanford, which led to the formation of the IEEE SUO WG effort. ** the full content of PatHayes' original electronic file (which I have renamed to VILLABOSCH_from-PHayes_20100325a.pdf) can be found under this directory - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/resource/historic-archives/Heidelburg-workshop_1998/ or more specifically, as: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/resource/historic-archives/Heidelburg-workshop_1998/VILLABOSCH_from-PHayes_20100325a.pdf * a first hand account from JohnSowa can be found at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/resource/historic-archives/Heidelburg-workshop_1998/1998-Heidelberg-workshop_acct-from-JohnSowa_20151019b.txt * Unrelated though (but, of course, some overlap in the attendees) this workshop took place right after the first FOIS (i.e. FOIS 1998 at Trento Italy, June 6~8 held in conjunction with KR-98) // The 1st International Conference on Formal Ontology in Information Systems, FOIS 1998, was held in Trento, Italy, June 1998, in conjunction with KR-98. FOIS 1998 was sponsored by the Italian National Research Council (CNR). General Chair: Nicola Guarino Organisation Chair: Alessandro Artale Organisation Committee: Alessandro Artale - Enrico Franconi (ITC-IRST, Trento, Italy) Nicola Guarino - Claudio Masolo (LADSEB-CNR, Padova, Italy) Luca Pazzi - Sonia Bergamaschi (Univ. of Modena, Italy) Geri Steve - Aldo Gangemi (ITBM-CNR, Roma, Italy) Cristiano Castelfranchi - Rino Falcone (IP-CNR, Roma, Italy) Ref. http://www.iaoa.org/fois/1998.html // * Early communications of the SUO effort (captured towards the end of PatHayes's VILLABOSCH.pdf archives, and highlighted below) also helps identify the early players in that (SUO) effort, which was also partly inspired by this Heidelberg workshop Notes by: PeterYim - 2015.12.24 http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PeterYim ================== PPY: Driven by a similar objective, the Heidelberg Workshop, then the IEEE-SUO WG Effort, the 2006 Upper Ontology Summit, and later the SIO Project (envisioned in 2010) all made attempts towards some sort of convergence among the Formal Ontology community, especially among the upper ontology folks. The following captures the dialog at the formative stage of the Sharing and Integrating Ontologies (SIO) Project (ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SharingIntegratingOntologies ) during which the Heidelberg Meeting was brought up, and author started seeking the support of Pat Hayes regarding details of the Heidelberg Meeting ... /////////// from: Pat Hayes to: Peter Yim date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:58 AM subject: Re: SIO virtual panel discussion - 2010.03.25 - preparation Hi Peter I will try to call in but it will be from a cell phone. John Sowa was at the Heidelberg meeting and may have a full record. Speaking from memory, I can recall John Sowa, Fritz Lehman, Wolfgang Wahlster, Peter Simons, Nicola Guarino, Bob Spillers, Ed Hovy, Livia Polyani, Adam Farquhar, Stan Peters, Harold Boley, Doug Skuce. But there were several parallel sessions, and not all of these were in the ontology subgroup. Pat PS. I have this huge email record from the Heidelberg meeting. Ive attached it as a PDF. Much of it is irrelevant, but you might find some nuggets in there. ------------------------------------------------------------ IHMC (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax FL 32502 (850)291 0667 mobile phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes Attachment: VILLABOSCH.pdf (925 KB) On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Peter Yim wrote: Hi Pat, re: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_03_25 ... I think we, as a community, are onto something ... will you be able to join us today, even if only for a little bit? By the way, do you have a list of the people who were at the 1998 Heidelburg meeting? Best. =ppy -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Yim Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:59 AM Subject: Re: SIO virtual panel discussion - 2010.03.25 - preparation To: Nicola Guarino , "John F. Sowa" , Matthew West Cc: Patrick Cassidy , Michael Gruninger , John Bateman , Mike Dean , "Obrst, Leo J." , Peter Yim Dear Nicola, Matthew, John and All, Thank you, Nicola. Despite the logistic challenge (since both Matthew and you will need to leave after the first half hour, and John couldn't join us until after the first half hour) ... this is just wonderful! We definitely want all of you, key players of this effort, to make a position statement, if only for posterity. Here's my suggested plan ... In John's absence, I will try to get everyone settled in promptly, and then set the context (my slides will only need, say, ~3 minutes ... but assume getting the logistics out of the way, etc. a total of no more than 10 minutes), and then have Matthew make his remarks, handle a couple of questions (total ~7 min., max 10 minutes) and then move on to Nicola's remarks (total ~7 min., max 10 minutes) ... and hopefully by then JohnSowa will be with us. My suggested speaking order now read ... (see developing session page) http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_03_25#nid2CX0 ... ALL: kindly review and suggest any change you will appropriate. I have received some slides already, and have heard from most of you* ... for the rest, if you are sending slides, kindly send them asap, or at least, let me know I should be expecting them from you. (If you have already sent them, and don't see your slides posted, then we have a problem ... please email me right away, or call me at 650.578.9998) Thanks & regards. =ppy p.s. *I need to hear from MikeDean and LeoObrst, on whether you will have slides, or whether you plan to put your remarks straight into the chat board. =ppy -- On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Nicola Guarino wrote: Sure, Peter, I understand this is a potentially relevant initiative, I'll try to follow it although unfortunately people (especially in my lab) tend to be skeptic with respect to these things (they are tired after so many unsuccessful attempts, and their energy is pretty scarce). I might even be able to connect shortly today for half an hour or so (not sure). Cheers, Nicola On 23 Mar 2010, at 01:29, Peter Yim wrote: No problem, Nicola ... However, please take an interest on this initiative, as this might finally get somewhere, if the those of us (especially the ontology custodians) at the UpperOntologySummit and deliver what we said we'll aim towards doing in our 2006 Communique, if we all put their minds to it. I will keep you posted! ... I hope you don't mind if I subscribe you to the mailing list that we will start for this SIO project (kindly let me know otherwise.) Thanks in advance. =ppy -- On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Nicola Guarino wrote: Peter, I can't make this meeting, I am sorry. Nicola On 22 Mar 2010, at 23:06, Peter Yim wrote: Thank you very much, Matthew. I will need to get everyone's input by tonight and then start constructing the session page, and make an official announcement about the meeting to get people to participate. ... But that should not stop you from joining us in the session even if you can't commit early enough to be on the panel. We should be devoted a lot of time to open discussion anyway. ALL, Personally, I see this as an extension from our UpperOntologySummit (2006)[1] and OntologySummit2008 (OOR)[2] ... and putting a decade long (probably more) debate into action. That's just marvelous! So far, I have only received responses from JohnSowa (yes), JohnBateman (yes), MatthewWest (possibly not) to this message. At our Mar-19 OOR meeting, I also got confirmation from PatCassidy (yes), MichaelGruninger (yes), MikeDean (yes) and LeoObrst (yes) ... and am, therefore, still awaiting confirmations from everyone else on this routing. I need to get feedback from everyone if they want to modify the suggest agenda and process for the call. If I don't hear further (past tonight), I will be setting up this Thursday's session accordingly (ref. my message from last night) and will be expecting slides from all of you (who said 'yes') by Wednesday night. ... Plus a draft SIO Charter from JohnSowa too. [1] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit/UosJointCommunique [2] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2008_Communique Thanks in advance. =ppy -- On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Matthew West wrote: Dear Peter, It is looking unlikely that I will be able to attend this Thursday, my usual problem with conflicting commitments (I'll let you know if that changes). This is a shame, because this is an initiative I wish to give my wholehearted support to. In fact I think it addresses problems that until they are sorted means that almost any other activity is likely to be more of the same mostly small scale and/or isolated stuff. Exactly what level of participation I can manage I don't know. It is a hobby activity at present, but I would expect to contribute at least in the way I have been, gently pushing things in the right direction, whilst keeping feet on the ground. Regards Matthew West Information Junction Tel: +44 560 302 3685 Mobile: +44 750 3385279 matthew.west@informationjunction.co.uk http://www.informationjunction.co.uk/ http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/ This email originates from Information Junction Ltd. Registered in England and Wales No. 6632177. Registered office: 2 Brookside, Meadow Way, Letchworth Garden City, Hertfordshire, SG6 3JE. -----Original Message----- From: peter.yim@gmail.com [mailto:peter.yim@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Yim Sent: 22 March 2010 14:29 To: Matthew West Cc: John F. Sowa; Peter Yim Subject: Re: SIO virtual panel discussion - 2010.03.25 - preparation Matthew, I apologize for having inadvertently missing you tin the routing of my message yesterday. Here it is ... Hope you can join us this Thursday. (Please let me know either way.) Thanks & regards. =ppy -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John F. Sowa Date: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:01 AM Subject: Re: SIO virtual panel discussion - 2010.03.25 - preparation To: John Bateman Cc: Peter Yim , Patrick Cassidy , Michael Gruninger , Mark Musen , Natasha Noy , Mike Dean , "Obrst, Leo J." , Doug Lenat , Nicola Guarino , Barry Smith , Adam Pease , Aldo Gangemi John, That sounds good: JB> ... was still traveling. For "Shared and Integrated Ontologies (SIO)" I'd be happy to present a 2-5 minute reminder of our work on OOR and heterogeneous ontologies, currently being pursued in our BioPortal and HETS extensions, should you wish. As I said to Peter, I may be a bit late for the session on Thursday, but I should be able to sign on at least by 2 pm. So it would be good to have one or two such discussions before I can discuss the new version of sionto.htm, which I'll post on Wednesday. However, the 1:30 sessions never begin at 1:30, and 2-5 min, can easily expand to 15 min with discussion. I was once the last of 4 presenters, each of which had "15 minutes". But with discussions, each of those 15 minutes expanded to about 30 minutes. John Sowa ---------- original message ---------- From: John Bateman Date: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:11 AM Subject: Re: SIO virtual panel discussion - 2010.03.25 - preparation To: Peter Yim Cc: "John F. Sowa" , Patrick Cassidy , Michael Gruninger , Mark Musen , Natasha Noy , Mike Dean , "Obrst, Leo J." , Doug Lenat , Nicola Guarino , Barry Smith , Adam Pease , Aldo Gangemi Hi Peter, sorry not to reply before: was still traveling. For "Shared and Integrated Ontologies (SIO)" I'd be happy to present a 2-5 minute reminder of our work on OOR and heterogeneous ontologies, currently being pursued in our BioPortal and HETS extensions, should you wish. Best, John B. On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Peter Yim wrote: Folks, Now that we have decided on having our virtual session on getting the "Shared and Integrated Ontologies (SIO)" project going this coming Thursday (25-Mar-2010), may I suggest the following plan: # JohnSowa to chair that session. # our nominal Ontolog session time is 1:30~3:30pm EDT ... in view of the fact that John needs to be 30 minutes late joining us, I suggest we announce that this meeting will start 15 minutes later than usual. Since normally takes us ~15 minutes to settle in (with logistics, intros, etc.) that would allow us to start almost as soon as John gets in. # Ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2010- 03/msg00150.html ... I suggest we focus on clarifying what the "Shared and Integrated Ontologies (SIO)" project is all about by: ## answering (a) what does SIO mean to each of the initial key players*, and (b) what do they envision getting done in the near- and medium-term (ref. ### addressing, in particular, what are the relations between (and among): * JohnSowa's Lattice of Theories * PatCassidy's FO/COSMO * SIO * COLORE * BioPortal * OOR * Ontolog (ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2010- 03/msg00150.html#nid02 ) # have an open Q&A and discussion with other participants who are interested, and/or will contribute to the effort # try to adopt a Mission Statement (or Charter) for SIO (clearly defining SIO as a project, an initiative, a community, ... or whatever) .. .or at least get such a process started, and finish it over the email forum # I suggest JohnSowa makes us a first draft of the SIO Mission Statement (or Charter) # I also suggest that the following panelists prepare a short brief (5~7 minutes each) describing the above (a) & (b) from his/her perspective, and in light of the work that he/she represents: * JohnSowa - Lattice of Theories * PatCassidy - FO/COSMO * MichaelGruninger - COLORE * MarkMusen or NatashaNoy - BioPortal * MikeDean, LeoObrst or PeterYim - OOR * PeterYim or LeoObrst - Ontolog * John Sowa - the proposed SIO MissionStatement/Charter # It would certainly be nice to have the following folks (or your designates to) join us on the Panel (but since you weren't with us at the Mar-16 meeting, we would certainly understand if you could not join us this time, but we would definitely look forward to your participation in the initiative, and join us in future meetings.) * DougLenat * NicolaGuarino * BarrySmith * AdamPease * JohnBateman * AldoGangemi * MatthewWest ** Panelists: having a few slides will be preferred ... they'll be due by end-of-day Wed Mar-24; if you don't plan to have slides, please be prepared to type in your talking points into the chat-board during the session. ALL: please acknowledge this message within 24-hours of this message (so we can tie down the panel and the agenda for the Thu session), and confirm your availability for the Mar-25 session. Comments, suggestions, further thoughts on what we could/should do or expect from this session is solicited and appreciated. Thanks & regards. =ppy -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew K. Hettinger Date: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Announcing the "Shared and Integrated Ontologies (SIO)" Initiative! [was - Fwd: Foundation ontology, CYC, and Mapping To: "[ontolog-forum]" Peter and All, In the context of discussing what SIO means to someone, and what work is envisioned to be accomplished, a question that came to me was what is the relation between OOR and SIO, and Peter you suggested that a better question would be what are the relations between * JohnSowa's Lattice of Theories * PatCassidy's FO/COSMO * SIO * COLORE * BioPortal * OOR * Ontolog Your more inclusive question is better to help get the discussion going so I included it here. Matthew K. Hettinger Mathet Consulting, Inc. On 3/16/2010 9:37 PM, Peter Yim wrote: We had a great post-summit session at NIST (Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA - with both on-site and remote participants), with John Sowa giving a talk entitled: "Sharing and Integrating Ontologies." Proceedings with slides, link to John's developing paper, and the transcript of the in-session chat, are now available on the session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi- bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_03_16 A huge thank you to John for all the work in synthesizing the discussion started in Feb-2010 under the subject: "Foundation Ontology, Cyc, and Mapping" and related threads, which partly informed the content of this talk and paper that John is doing. A most exciting outcome of the session is that a new initiative on "Shared and Integrated Ontologies (SIO)" is officially born. This will be the effort to implement the ideas discussed. I will defer to JohnSowa, PatCassidy, MichaelGruninger and others who plan to be contribute to the effort to start by telling us (a) what does SIO mean to them, and (b) what do they envision getting done in the near- and medium-term. ... if you have been involved in this discussion, or were at the session today, please chime in. Thanks again, everyone! Regards. =ppy -- //////////// ====== Some relevant excerpt(s) from VILLABOSCH.pdf (925 KB) // From: "Prof. Andreas Reuter" To: "'AFarquhar'" , "'EFeigenbaum'" , "'JPustejovski'" , "'JTsujii'" , "'MvdBerg'" , "'PHayes'" To: "'PSimons'" Cc: Beate Keller , "'guarino'" , "'hovy'" , "'miller'" , "'peters'" , "'polanyi'" Cc: "'self'" , "'sowa'" , "'spillers'" , "'tschira'" , "'Vossen'" Subject: Re: Ontology Workshop in Heidelberg Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:37:56 +0100 Dear colleagues, let me briefly introduce myself: My name is Andreas Reuter, Scientific Director of the European Media Lab (EML) at Heidelberg. Together with our Managing Director, Klaus Tschira, I have the pleasure of hosting a workshop on ontological issues in our lab, which is located in "Villa Bosch", a beautiful old villa right behind the Heidelberg Castle. In the meantime you should have been approached by one of the colleagues mentioned in the CC-list, and from what we know, you agreed to participate. Let me restrict this first mail to organisational issues; the technical matters will be filled in by those among the organizers who work in the field, which neither Klaus Tschira nor I do. The workshop starts on June 10, 1998, and will go on for one week (weekend included), ending on June 16. ...[snip]... // // Message-ID: <01BD7213.1FCC7500@linux3.villa-bosch.de> From: "Prof. Andreas Reuter" To: "'AReuter'" , "'BSpillers'" , "'EHovy'" , "'GMiller'" , "'JSowa'" , "'KTschira'" , "'LPolanyi'" , "'NGuarino'" , "'PVossen'" , "'SPeters'" , "'AFarquhar'" , "'CFellbaum'" , "'DSkuce'" , "'EFeigenbaum'" , "'FLehmann'" , "'JMcCarthy'" , "'JPustejovski'" , "'JTsujii'" , "'MvdBerg'" , "'PHayes'" , "'PSimons'" , "'WWahlster'" Cc: B‰rbel Mack , Beate Keller VILLABOSCH/cn=Recipients/cn=keller@villa-bosch.de> Subject: Re: Ontology Workshop Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:31:48 +0100 Dear colleagues, the web site is online now (URL: http://www.ontology.villa-bosch.de), with a minor exception to the explanation I gave before: When entering the page, you have provide the string "ontology" as the user name, independent of your real last name, and then "villabosch" as the password. Works here, hopefully works on your end, too. Best wishes Andreas // ... [ppy: as of 2015.10.12 - the http://www.ontology.villa-bosch.de website returns a "server not found" error.] ... [ppy: my attempt to access that via the Internet Archives did not succeed, as the only snapshot available there seems to have been password-protected - http://web.archive.org/web/20000521224756/http://www.ontology.villa-bosch.de/] // Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:39:43 -0500 To: webmaster@villa-bosch.de From: Fritz Lehmann Subject: The top 40 concepts Cc: fritz@cyc.com, Andreas.Reuter@eml.villa-bosch.de, skydog@pacbell.net, hovy@isi.edu, geo@clarity.princeton.edu, sowa@west.poly.edu, Klaus.Tschira@ktf.villa-bosch.de, polanyi@pal.xerox.com, guarino@ladseb.pd.cnr.it, Piek.Vossen@let.uva.nl, peters@csli.stanford.edu, Adam_Farquhar@ksl.stanford.edu, fellbaum@clarity.princeton.edu, doug@csi.uottawa.ca, feigenbaum@ksl.stanford.edu, fritz@cyc.com, jmc@cs.stanford.edu, jamesp@cs.brandeis.edu, tsujii@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp, vdberg@us.ibm.com, phayes@nuts.coginst.uwf.edu, p.m.simons@leeds.ac.uk, wahlster@dfki.uni-sb.de, doug@csi.uottawa.ca Dear Sir or Madam, The web page for the Heidelberg Ontology Workshop Agenda mentions Piek Vossen's "Top 40" concepts. I think it would be a good idea to distribute a list of the Top 40, with any existing definitions, comments and axioms, to all Workshop participants now. That way, we can give these 40 concepts some specific consideration in advance. Yours truly, Fritz Lehmann Fritz Lehmann, Cycorp, 3721 Executive Center Dr., Austin, TX 78731 USA email: fritz@cyc.com telephone: (512) 342-4013 fax: (512) 342-4040 // =====================================================