ppy/EarthScienceOntolog-org_chat-transcript_edited_20120803b.txt ------------ Chat transcript from room: ontolog_20120803 2012-08-03 GMT-08:00 ------------ [10:56] PeterYim: Welcome to the = EarthScienceOntolog mini-series - 2nd Organizing Committee Meeting = Date: Friday 2012.08.03 Start time: 2:00pm EDT /11:00am PDT Duration: ~1.0 hr (augmented telecon) Dial-in: Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... PIN: 141184# or Skype: "joinconference" ... PIN: 141184# Chat-workspace: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20120803 Project homepage: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog Remarks: * the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of their participation at the session. * In case we have to mute everyone (due to extraneous noise or echo) - Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute * for Skype users: Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" . == Agenda & Proceedings: == . Session workspace: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog/GettingOrganized#nid3DGD Attended: DaliaVaranka, GaryBergCross, KrishnaSinha, KrzysztofJanowicz, LeoObrst, NaicongLi, NancyWiegand, PeterYim (scribe) Regrets: PascalHitzler, MikeDean, MarkSchildhauer . [10:59] PeterYim: == Agenda: == 1. to adopt our mini-series "Mission" (3DGQ) 2. to adopt our mini-series "Program" (3DGR) 3. clarify and identify all co-chair roles (3DGS) 4. share thoughts and coordinate session content and panelists invitations. (3DGT) 5. streamlining the organizing committee (so we have people who can really dedicate the time and effort); anyone else we should bring in? (3DGU) 6. more "co-organizers" and "supporting communities" (before we close this off?) (3DGV) 7. Any other business (3DGW) == Proceedings: == [11:03] anonymous morphed into KrishnaSinha [11:04] anonymous morphed into KrzysztofJanowicz [11:05] anonymous morphed into GaryBergCross [11:06] PeterYim: -- session starts: 11:06am PDT -- [11:09] PeterYim: Krishna announced an input from the NSF program coordinator, Barbara Ransom, ref. funding of the 6 Geoscience-oriented workshops, which he will forward to everyone shortly [11:12] KrishnaSinha: here's what Barbara sent over ... // We are in the process of funding 7 Geo end-user workshops here in our 2012 fiscal year and there will likely be 10 or more that will follow in our next FY which starts October 1. Prior to the June meeting, many of you expressed a desire to have direct input from geoscience end users to help progress your activities. Our geo end-user workshops will provide captive audiences who will be able to provide you with the information you need; and we would be happy to make sure you get the information you want, in the appropriate format. The present slate of funded, or soon to be funded workshops to be held before the end of 2012 are: 1. An early career workshop on sedimentary systems and landscape dynamics 2. An early career workshop that cut across all of the geosciences and cyber/computer science (this grew out of meetings with the early career people who came to the June meeting) 3. A workshop for EarthScope PIs that involves geophysicists as well as sedimentary/crustal geoscientists 4. A workshop involving the hydrological sciences community and sponsored by CUAHSI 5. A workshop for critical zone (soil) scientists 6. A workshop for paleobiologists and sedimentologists 7. A workshop focused on the need of geoscientists in tectonics, structure, and geochronology // [11:15] KrzysztofJanowicz: Who will be invited to these workshops and where to find information about them? [11:18] PeterYim: NancyWiegand joins ... (no computer access though) [11:38] anonymous1 morphed into NaicongLi [11:19] PeterYim: NaicongLi joins [11:20] PeterYim: [consensus] ALL: "Mission Statement" - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog#nid3CWC - adopted [11:22] KrishnaSinha: suggesting candidate panelist: Boyan Brodaric, Geological Survey of Canada ... and Calvin Barnes, Texas Tech [11:22] Krishna & Leo: we are pushing the kick-off session date out to either Aug-16 or Aug-23 [11:24] PeterYim: [confirmed] session-1 date now changed to Aug-23 [11:26] PeterYim: [consensus] ALL: the rest of the proposed dates for sessions 2 to 5 confirmed [11:27] PeterYim: see session schedule and co-chairs at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog#nid3CWI [11:26] GaryBergCross: We don't know when the NSF workshops might be , so we may run into conflicts despite our best efforts. [11:43] PeterYim: besides suggested session guidelines - ref. discussion thread starting at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/mini-series-org/2012-08/msg00009.html - we should all leave 30~45 minutes for discussion at each session [11:43] GaryBergCross: Let's be opportunistic and flexible. Plan what we can and get buy in from earth scientists early on and find a space to get them involved also later in sessions like on methodology. [11:44] GaryBergCross: We should leave space in each session, say 30 minutes, for open discussion. But also if earth scientists are heavily involved early on make sure we let ontologists and LoP folks the chance to respond before the end of the series. [11:46] Krishna: [action] I will post a link to the EarthScienceOntolog mini-series at the EarthCube Semantics website [11:47] == more suggestions on content / panelists ... [11:48] DaliaVaranka suggested candidate presenters for the Tutorial session might include: LeoObrst, James Wilson and herself. [11:48] KrzysztofJanowicz: Glen Hart ordnance survey [11:48] anonymous: Marine Science and Interoperability Center, SDSC have cataloged a lot of ontologies relevant to earth science [11:48] KrzysztofJanowicz: Todd Pehle, Orbis [11:48] DaliaVaranka: For the tutorial group, we could ask the IAOA summer school on ontological analysis to speak about the summer school outcomes, plans, and support for earth science. The IAOA has a GeoSemantics SIG, led by WernerKuhn and JohnBateman, and they could be ontologist partners. [11:48] PeterYim: indeed, IAOA (and their GeoSemantics SIG) has already agreed to get involved in this effort and they are listed this mini-series as an "IAOA Supported Event" [11:49] KrzysztofJanowicz: ESIP - Peter Fox (RPI Tetherless World Constellation) [11:49] GaryBergCross: community voc data models include GeoSciML, ClimateML, SoilML, [11:51] KrzysztofJanowicz: Michael Lutz and Sven Schade from INSPIRE [11:52] GaryBergCross: Luis Bermudez at OGC has had connections to MMI and I can check with him. [11:52] DaliaVaranka: For session 4: Ask MarkSchildhauer to co-chair; invite ESIP, some scientists from IGARSS. I would be happy to switch to session 4. [11:53] GaryBergCross: HydroCatalog is part of CUAHSI and has Voc. Nogueras-Iso is one contact on INSPIRE [11:55] GaryBergCross: Janet Fredericks is also involved with MMI and was at the EC Charrette. [12:02] DaliaVaranka: Dave Kolas (BBN) replied that he may be interested -very taken up with a new daughter right now - but he would be a wonderful resource for a GeoSPARQL tutorial, which is extremely important to geospatial ontology. [11:56] KrzysztofJanowicz: I have to leave now [11:57] DaliaVaranka: bye [11:57] GaryBergCross: MMI list of vocabularies at https://marinemetadata.org/conventions/vocabularies [12:00] PeterYim: [confirmed] co-chair for session-4 will now be DaliaVaranka & MarkSchildhauer (Dalia is contacting Mark to get his confirmation) [12:02] PeterYim: co-chairs for session-5 will be NancyWiegand and MikeDean (tentative .. will confirm with Mike) [12:06] PeterYim: let's make sure we engage earth scientists as much as we can; we need to try, possibly with NSF's help, to engage each and every one of the principals driving the upcoming seven (or so) Geo end-user workshops [12:07] PeterYim: -- session ended: 12:06pm PDT -- ------------