ppy/OntoIOp-confcall-n46_chat-transcript_20131106b.txt ------ Chat transcript from room: ontoiop_20131106 2013-11-06 GMT-08:00 [PST] ------ [7:01] PeterYim: . = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.46) - Wed 2013.11.06 = Date: Wed 6-Nov-2013 start-time: 7:00am PST / 10:00 am EST / 4:00pm CET / 5:00pm SAST / 0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 GMT/UTC * ref. world clock -http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=6&year=2013&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 Duration: 1.0~1.5 Hrs. 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Please add your part if you have not done so yet. -TillMossakowski Attendees: TillMossakowski (co-chair), MichaelGruninger (co-chair), ChristophLange, ConradBock, FabianNeuhaus, OliverKutz, PeterYim (scribe), RoyBell, TerryLongstreth * Regrets: StefanoBorgo == Proceedings: == [7:01] anonymous morphed into ChristophLange [7:06] PeterYim: see RFP input thread, starting from Fabian's post at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontoiop-forum/2013-11/msg00004.html [7:06] anonymous morphed into ConradBock [7:08] anonymous morphed into RoyBell [7:09] PeterYim: == TillMossakowski starts the meeting ... [7:09] PeterYim: Till: RFP to be sent out next Monday [7:10] PeterYim: Till: let's go through the RFP section by section - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HkMaPJNWqpvU0QyqQ4fIWT3ZxoCr6I469GA0aoTHHXo/edit [7:11] PeterYim: Till: ... now section 6.1 [7:18] List of members: ChristophLange, ConradBock, FabianNeuhaus, MichaelGruninger, PeterYim, RoyBell, TillMossakowski [7:18] FabianNeuhaus: hallo, sorry for being late [7:20] PeterYim: OliverKutz is also on the phone (and not in the chat-room yet!) [7:24] PeterYim: [consensus] Ontologies, specifications and models will (for the purpose of this document) henceforth be subsumed under the notion of logical theory. [logical theory -> OSM] [7:35] PeterYim: Till: will work on elaboration of use cases 4 & 5 [7:37] PeterYim: Till: ... now section 6.3.1 [7:40] PeterYim: [consensus] ... the list is all that's needed (just a listing, or adding one sentence should suffice), as is [7:41] PeterYim: Till: needs to leave now ... please continue [7:41] PeterYim / ChristophLange: ... now section 6.3.2 [7:55] PeterYim: [consensus] 6.3.2 2nd bullet updated: "Semantic Information Modeling for Federation (SIMF) requests a modeling language for supporting information modeling. Responses to the OntoIOp RFP will provide a metalanguage for the relationships among modeling languages and the OSMs that are specified in the metalanguage." [7:55] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5 [7:56] ChristophLange: Till to delete the editorial comments in the intro of 6.5 before submission [7:57] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5.1 [7:59] PeterYim: ( TerryLongstreth just joined ) [8:00] TerryLongstreth: Sorry - I missed the time change [8:02] PeterYim: @Terry - it wasn't the time change ... Till actually moved the meeting an hour early [8:01] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5.2 [8:15] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.5.4 [8:16] ChristophLange: [consensus] Comment about "criteria for translation" is sufficiently addressed by bullet 3 [8:16] ChristophLange: Now section 6.5.6 [8:19] ChristophLange: changed "that occurs in the context of the meta-language" -> "that occurs or that is referred to in " [8:21] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.6.2 [8:24] PeterYim: [consensus] we will leave out "ABD Logic" for now, until that develops a bit more in the CL discussions ... but "leave comment in as a reminder" [8:26] PeterYim: [consensus] removing "fuzzy logics" [8:30] PeterYim: Michael: ... now section 6.8 [8:35] PeterYim: [consensus] removing: "Proposals covering the same set of features with a more compact, orthogonal syntax will be favored." [8:36] MichaelGruninger: Comment for Till: Should we remove the sentence in 6.8 that says "Proposals covering a broader range of features and of examples will be favored. An initial set of examples is provided, using some preliminary syntax for the meta-language" [8:37] PeterYim: next meeting, same time 2 weeks from now - OntoIOp team-confcall (n.47) - Wed 2013.11.20 - start-time: 7:00am PST / 10:00 am EST / 4:00pm CET / 5:00pm SAST / 0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 GMT/UTC [8:38] PeterYim: -- session ended: 5:38pm CET / 16:38 GMT/UTC -- ------