ppy/OntoIOp-confcall-n49_chat-transcript_20131218b.txt ------ Chat transcript from room: ontoiop_20131218 2013-12-18 GMT-08:00 [PST] ------ [6:53] PeterYim: . = OntoIOp team-confcall (n.49) - Wed 2013.12.18 = * Date: Wed 18-Dec-2013 * start-time: 7:00am PST / 10:00 am EST / 4:00pm CET / 5:00pm SAST / 0:00am [+1] KST / 15:00 GMT/UTC ** ref. world clock - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=12&day=18&year=2013&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 * Duration: 1.0~1.5 Hrs. 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(--CLange) Attendees: TillMossakowski (chair), ChristophLange, ConradBock, MichaelGruninger, OliverKutz, PeterYim (scribe), TerryLongstreth Regrets: KiyongLee, MariaKeet, FabianNeuhaus, ElisaKendall == Proceedings: == [05:40] anonymous morphed into Conrad [07:05] Conrad morphed into ConradBock [07:05] PeterYim: == TillMossakowski starts the call ... [07:09] PeterYim: === discussion on what happened in the Santa Clara OMG meeting [07:09] PeterYim: Till: conceived potential duplication of effort by some ADTF members between OntoIOp and SIMF were staifactorily explained and issue resolved [07:12] PeterYim: Till: === letters of intent answering the OntoIOp RFP - which OMG members can send a letter? [07:13] PeterYim: Conrad: only industry members ... not Universities (unless they are suppliers of software) [07:14] PeterYim: Till: Since at Magdeburg, we develop/supply Hets and Ontohub (in the form of open source software) ... I will assume we can send a letter of intent too [07:14] TillMossakowski: here's what Elisa sent over ... Hi Till, You only really need Fraunhofer, but I'm happy to be a co-submitter, especially if I'm working with Tara on an ontology to be used for both API4KBs and for OntoIOp. We should be able to get other people who are participants in API4KBs to sign up as well. That would carry additional weight I think. Likely candidates include 88solutions, Deere & Company, Adaptive, ACORD, Arizona State University, the RuleML community, and possibly others. Also, I spoke with Trica Balfe from Nomos Software this morning, and she suggested that we reach out to some of the OCL community, including Ed Willink. I can provide his contact details if you think it would be good to include them. Ed knows the EU folks working on OCL, especially in academia, and could connect you with some who might want to contribute a transformation that includes OCL. Apparently there are implementations that people have developed that enable the use of theorem provers with OCL, which would be an interesting and possibly important piece of the story. You don't really need any of the other participants to write -anything-, though having additional reviewers and perspectives involved would likely only improve the resulting specification. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be able to participate tomorrow ...[snip]... but will do my best. Let me know if you would like contact details for folks in these organizations -- happy to provide them. Best regards, Elisa [07:18] TillMossakowski: I will ask AdrianPaschke from the RuleML community [07:19] TillMossakowski: I already have asked HolgerSchlingloff and AndreasHoffmann from Faunhofer Fokus, Berlin, Germany - they are in. [07:20] ConradBock: I'll ask RogerBurkhart of Deere, and EdWillink (OCL). [07:20] TillMossakowski: ElisaKendall from Thematix is in [07:22] TillMossakowski: I will ask DavideSottara from Arizona State University [07:23] TillMossakowski: I will ask TaraAthan (API4KB, RuleML) whether she can suggest other people [07:25] PeterYim: Till: === organisation of the preparation of an answer to the OntoIOp RFP [07:27] TillMossakowski: Fabian and I will take the existing ISO working draft (more than 100 pages) and convert it into a starting point for the answer to the RFP [07:28] TillMossakowski: I suggest to keep the answer to the RFP in LaTeX as long as possible, because collaborative editing is easier (via subversion). [07:29] TillMossakowski: Conrad: we can even submit a PDF. [07:31] TillMossakowski: Conrad: We can even let all draft answers be in LaTeX, and only one year after finalisation, we need to submit a source. [07:32] TillMossakowski: Fabian told me that the two most important things are 1) the ability to comment the documents (but this can be done with PDFs), and 2) producing diffs (buth this can be done using difflatex) [07:32] ConradBock: Submit source when adopted, but no one will look at it until after finalization (a year after adoption), so you can use Latex for quite a while. [07:35] PeterYim: next meeting (n.50) - Wed 2014.01.15 - start time: 8:00am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00pm CET / 6:00pm SAST / 1:00am [+1] KST / 16:00 GMT/UTC [07:35] TillMossakowski: next meeting: Jan 15th, 8am PDT, 11am EST, 5pm CET [07:36] TerryLongstreth: See you next year [07:36] PeterYim: -- session ended: 4:36pm CET -- ------