ppy/ontolog_chat-transcript_edited_20111020b.txt


Chat transcript from room: ontolog_20111020
2011-10-20 GMT-08:00

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[09:27] PeterYim: Welcome to the 

= Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-1 - Tue 2011_10_20 =

Topic: Introducing the ISO/WD 17347 "OntoIOp" 

Co-chairs: Professor JohnBateman (Bremen University) & Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto) 

Goto session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_10_20

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== Proceedings: ==

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anonymous morphed into ChristopherSpottiswoode

ChristophLange: hi, this is ChristophLange.  OliverKutz and MichaelGruninger are with me; we will use one phone together, but separate chats

anonymous morphed into TillMossakowski

ChristophLange: i'm back in the phone conf

PeterYim: Michael ... please speak up

ChristopherSpottiswoode: I'm here but can't hear anyone.

PeterYim: @ChristopherSpottiswoode - the session has just started, can you hear us yet?

anonymous morphed into TimBoland

anonymous morphed into FabianNeuhaus

ChristopherSpottiswoode: @PeterYim: I have just seen your question...  Yes all's fine, thanks!

PeterYim: @ChristophLange - ref. your comment on access to working draft(s) ... please elaborate on how that would work, for onotio-wg members, and the wider ontology community

PeterYim: @ChristophLange - don't worry about answering now, I am (and encouraged for others too) just capturing question while you are presenting, so we can address them later, during the Q&A and discussion segment

PeterYim: [action] - to get process in place to allow more people to contribute and provide feedback during the working draft phase

AliHashemi: question for later, re slide 7:  where would SWRL (and the other rule formalisms) be located on the graphic in slide 7?

AliHashemi: related to it, are there plans underway to include them as conforming logics

TillMossakowski: actually, we have not looked closer into rule formalism yet, but this is the next thing we want to do

MichaelGruninger: @AliHashemi: SWRL with monotonic semantics is a subset of FOL. Technically, SWRL is an extension of OWL (i.e. it specifies that SWRL atoms are equivalent to OWL classes and roles).

AliHashemi: (well same question for RIF which contains extra-logical bits)

MichaelGruninger: @AliHashemi: Can you give additional examples of "extra-logical bits"?

AliHashemi: I should be clear by what I mean by "extra-logic"  - take the URD dialect for example

AliHashemi: ( http://c4i.gmu.edu/ursw/2008/papers/URSW2008_F9_ZhaoBoley.pdf )

AliHashemi: http://www.w3.org/Submission/SWRL/

AliHashemi: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/RIF_Working_Group

AliHashemi: http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl

MatthewWest: I'm afraid I have to leave. interesting session.

PeterYim: thank you for coming, Matthew ... ttyl

MikeBennett: I have to go now - thanks for great presentations and I'll be following this work with interest.

SteveRay: [regarding the ISO process -ed.] No comment at this point.

ChristophLange: (for those on [ontoiop-wg]) link to Michael's examples: http://interop.cim3.net/file/work/OntoIOp/Ontologies/

ChristophLange: (for those on [ontoiop-wg]) link to the e-mail thread discussing these examples: http://interop.cim3.net/forum/ontoiop-wg/2011-10/msg00086.html

JoelBender: @SteveRay: are you involved in this effort?

JoelBender: I am involved in ASHRAE/NEMA SPC 201P, under the auspices of NIST, developing a model for information transfer between facilities and a national smart grid.  One of the stickier problems is the mapping of "space", "time", "measure" - specifically the terminology as published by NOAA (OpenGIS), WS-Calendar (OASIS), IEC 61850, and semantic sensor networks (W3C), and units of measure (OASIS - eventually).  Any help out of DOL would be appreciated!

SteveRay: My team has translated the entire ASHRAE SPC201P into OWL and is grinding through it, looking for overlaps, duplications, inconsistencies.

SteveRay: @MichaelGruninger - Interested in who is leading the IDIOM project.

MichaelGruninger: @SteveRay - David Price, David Leal, and Allison Barnard Feeney are actually the editors of the IDIOM document that I have.

SteveRay: @MichaelGruninger - Excellent! Thanks.

JoelBender: Here is another project, which is more taxonomy rather than ontology, http://project-haystack.org/ - I don't think the information is available in a formal notation

ChristophLange: @JoelBender: Could you also provide some links to the space/time/measure terminologies/ontologies?

TerryLongstreth: Is Sue Ellen's preso on the wiki yet?

JohnBateman: @Terry: the slides are there...

MichaelGruninger: join us at the next session of this "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series - developing details at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_11_03

PeterYim: Great session!

JoelBender: Thank you (good to "see" you again Peter)

PeterYim: @Joel - yes, glad you are here!

[11:12] PeterYim: - session ended: 11:11am PDT

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